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Great Lunch with Kaliya Hamlin and Kevin Marks

I think getting to know Kaliya Hamlin means getting her to exhaust her array of possible business cards on you.

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I started out with Kevin Marks and shared with him my misgivings about his session, namely that there was no there there. I did point out to him that he had succeeded in getting me to contribute to the IRC room by putting it on screen, something I never do.

We also discussed how the nature of presentations had changed. People here are trying not to do top-down discussions. I talked with him about some of the things I am trying to do with the learning remix. The question in my mind is how you bring the learning remix to something like a conference.

The discussion with Kaliya was most enlightening. Here's a woman who has her hands in a lot of pots. I was particularly proud that I exhausted her deck of cards; she has four that she hands out based on what aspect of herself she is presenting.

This brought up a whole discussion of identity. Clearly for Kaliya, her different activities present sufficiently different aspects of herself that she chooses to represent them with different cards. So, one could wonder if getting to know Kaliya meant exhausting her deck of cards, oddly a theme that Thomas Vander Wal echoes. Except with Thomas, he clearly does not want you to exhaust his deck of cards. I don't think that Kaliya minds so much.

Kaliya is doing some interesting things with identity. She is developing distributed identity networks so that people can make themselves known under one name when they want to. This comes out of her work with people heavily involved in spirituality. Our conversation has motivated me to want to learn more, as I think one of the biggest issues in scaling networking applications is creating the network of links.

Bud posted this on November 15, 2005

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